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I N D E X
Introduction
Possible locations
Pole shift
Biblic Flooding
Predeluvian climat
Continent changes
Timing, When
How, Where
Size, population
Cayce readings
Plato, Timaeus
Plato, Critias
Flood Myths

Introduction



    
  1. Foreword.
  2. Where to start.
  3. Why, When, What and Where.
  4. What to look for.
  5. Timescale.
  6. Plato, Timaeus dialog
  7. Plato, Critias dialog
  8. Cayce readings, «  Continent and culture of atantis »
  9. Interesting Web Sites.



Foreword

Somewhere back in 1987 I got across some books related to The lost continent of Atlantis. The first one was, The Mystery of Atlantis written by Charles Berliz, and published in 1974 by Grosset & Dunlap Inc (German version: ISBN 3-552-02812-9).    The other book was Alte thesen - neue Forschungen written by Otto H.Muck and published in 1976 by Econ Verlag Gmbh (ISBN 3-430-16837-6).    Then later, somewhere in 1996, I started to investigate more on this subject, and also started the gathering of data, pictures and other information that year.

The theory advanced by Otto H.Muck looked to me the closed to what could have been the truth, however since of 1997 satalite data has become available to public, published in France by IFREMER , from where I downloaded the necessary altitude data (Military and Commercial use prohibited).    I have been working occasionally since 1996 on this project trying to get Data together, verify some of Otto H.Muck figures and data.    Because Otto H.Muck had collected his data from the late 50's until the early 60's, which did not seem to match actual available data.

In this pages I will try to reconstruct what Otto H.Muck was trying to do, but give it my interpretation, considering that Plato must have been right in some extend with his story, but by considering some margins, (a foot must be between 22 and 40 cm etc.) especially mentionings about sizes and placement.    Plato's mentionings about things wich are not there any longer and things which should be still be there should also be considered, in this case we should know what to look for and what not to look for.

I do not want to consider things about magic crytals, mysterious energies, UFO's or other similar stuff as long this does not explain a possible natural desaster.    As well, I do not beleive that things like islands can disappear into nothing, and that this islands can disappear without leaving as single trace.    This looks like someone trying to commit a perfect crime, it does not exist, then there must always be some trace left somewhere.    But it is possible that we do not see it, because it is either unbelievable or we did simply not look for the right thing at the right place, or look at the things at the right scale.

However I have been spending a fair amount of time in filtering and gathering the necessary data and pictures, as well make a programm to generate de maps.    I had to find ou a method to re-map the world coordinates in case of a pole displacement, and an other program to do some simple climat simulation and make this things fit close enough to reality.    Then all the maps shown on this site are computer generated and based on real data    I did not invent anything besides the correction maps, in which I had to imagine the possible changes in order to reflect the sinking of the North Atlantic ocean floor and the rising of some continents.    I had, since this data is still unknown, and nobody has any reasonable idee what could have happened, to imagine how ocean floor and continents could have been moved by the consequence of a possible natural disaster, or any other reason why they could have been moved.

Where to start

Where to start is the real question, then there are many things who could be related to Atlantis like the biblical flooding (also metioned by Plato to, who wrote: « There occurred violent earthquakes and floods » and « For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock »), the prediluvian climat change could alse be related to Atlantis, as well the climat warming up since 12'000 years ago.    We should also not forget to ask ourselves « Did Atlantis ever exist » and « If Atlantis ever existed, Where did Atlantis exist ». (Plato wrote about that: « There are remaining only the bones of the wasted body, as they may called, as in the case of small islands, all the richer and softer parts of the soil having fallen away »)    Where are the sacred memorials which sould still exist according to Plato, who wrote: « There may still be observed sacred memorials in places where fountains once existed; and this proves the truth of what I am saying. » is The Bimini Wall, discovered in 1968 one of them?   On the other hand Plato insisted in this story being true in writing about an egyptian priest: « Concerning the country the Egyptian priests said what is not only probable but manifestly true. ». Then Plato was convinced that the story was true, even then he could never have verified anything about it.   So let's start with asking questions to be answered, then what to look for, what happened and a possible timescale.


Why, When, What and Where
Questions to be answered

  • Where was Atlantis.
  • Can an Island sink into nothing, without leaving a trace.
  • How big was it, or how big should it be.
  • Was the North Pole (and South) in the actual place.
  • When the poles did shift, how can we shift a pole.
  • How do tectonic plates fit with an island in the middle of the Atlantic ocean.
  • How comes that mammoths got frozen such that their bodies are left intact.
  • Why did Siberia and a part oif Alaska have a climat corresponding to 1'500 Km's further south.
  • And Why had Central Europe and North America a clilmat corresponding to 1'500 Km's further north.
  • In case of a flooding by rain, where did the water came from.
  • If the flooding rain came from the Atlantic ocean, the evaporation would have taken an enormous quantity of heat, wich has to be explained.
  • When someting sinks, something else will have to come up, so if Atlantis sunk, where did the material go.
  • Why does the Earth tilt of axis not match the Orbital inclination of the Moon (Difference 18°).
  • Why do some Mayan and Inca monuments show an misalignment of ~17° east with actual north.
  • Did the earth always rotate at the same speed, did it accelerate or did it slow down.
  • Why does the center of the ice cap of 10'000 BC show a difference of ~12° to ~20° towards actual north.
  • Could the actual magnetic pole have been Pole before.

  • Could the weigth of the Ice Cap have moved the pole as some people suggest.

  • Has the South American Continent been moved up.
  • Did The Australian continent move up to.
  • Does the Maya Calendar Year « 0 » correspond to Planet alignements.
  • Does the timescale Mentioned by Plato (between 8'500 BC and 10'000 BC) correspond to Planet alignments?.
  • Do the timescales of Plato or the Maya Calendar correspond to Earth climat changes?.
  • Did a part of the Atlantis survivors become the jewish people?.
  • Did the survivors of Cayce's Followers Of Belial become the Egyptian, Inca and Maya cultures?.
  • One of the first known monotheist population lived somewhere in Iran from 550 BC until around 600,
    they had sacred temples with sacred fires like Cayce's Followers Of the Law of One had, where they also survivors?.


What to look for.

  • Possible places within the limits of Platos story.
  • Minimum population count (Someone will have to feed the Army of 1'200'000 people).
  • Planet alignments and their dates (Data source: Nasa).
  • Traces of heavy rainfall.
  • Possible position of the poles.
  • Possible places for Astriod et Meteor impact and their traces.
  • Maya Calendar matches, if any.
  • Possible length of day, was a day shorter as now or was a day longer (Between 23 Hrs and 25 Hrs?).


Timescale.

  • 10'700 BC That where Edgar Cayce situates the Atlantis disaster (No corresponding lignup).
  •   9'895 BC Big planets, Venus and Moon lignup (within +/- 10%) end March.
  •   9'792 BC Dendérah Zodiac contains special sign in Lion. (Very close lignup!!!)
  •   9'716 BC Big planets, Venus and Moon lignup (within +/- 10%) in February.
  •   9'600 BC That where Plato situates the Atlantis disaster. (Pato wrote the dialogs 380 BC and the story is told by Solon at 600 BC and the event is supposed to be 9'000 years before that. Whithin a 200 year margin, any date from 9'400 BC until 9'800BC will do.)
  •   9'537 BC Big planets, Venus and Moon lignup (within +/- 5%) in January.
  •   8'238 BC Cycle « -1 » of the Maya calendar (No corresponding lignup).
  •   3'113 BC Cycle « 0 » of the Maya calendar (No corresponding lignup).
  •   2'794 BC Maya calendar points to an unknown event (1.18.5.3.6 - 1.18.5.4.0)
  •   1'5xx BC Volcanic disaster distroys Thera and the Minoan civilization.
  •   1'2xx BC Ramses II, jewish people quit Egypt.
  •      380 BC Plato wrote the Timaeus and Critias dialogs.
  •   1'882        « Atlantis - The Atediluvian World » is written by Ignatius Donnelly.
  •   1'924        « The Problem of Atlantis » is written by Lewis Spence.
  •   1'960        Ruins of ancient cities on Thera are discovered.
  •   1'968        The Bimini Wall is Discovered.
  •   1'976        « Alles über Atlantis, Alte Thesen - neue forshungen » is written by Otto H.Muck.


Interesting Web Sites
Sources



 
     
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